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• At 28 March '08 - 06:15 neagrigore wrote:

  

  I totally agree with what you have written above. I have only one observation to make, about the degree of stupidity of Fitna. I think that the book of some french author about the staging of the 9/11 certainly exceeds by far in stupidity Geert’s project. Nonetheless, Fitna remains one of the most outstanding proofs that stupidity is a war never to be won. Thank you for you post.

  
  

• At 29 March '08 - 08:42 Zee wrote:

  

  Enjoy life as a dhimmi. You have all the appeasing qualities that you require.

  
  

• At 29 March '08 - 09:16 Marco wrote:

  

  @Zee I don’t know if you’ve read any of my other posts dealing with religion but if you did you’d know that I would never let myself be subjected to ANY religion. I tolerate all religions as long as I personally don’t have to deal with their ‘laws’ and limitations on what I do with my life. I pretty much dislike all religion and I feel they are a disgrace to humanity and human intellect. This applies to ALL religion as far as I’m concerned. I don’t favour religion A over religion B as this would be a hypocrite thing to do.
  
  That said, I still DON’T think Fitna serves any purpose in making sure the above will be ensured for me and anyone else who doesn’t wish to be subjected to laws coming from fairy tale books, which is what I hoped to point out in my article. Movies like this are only intended to stir hatred and to divide people. I’m sorry if I failed in bringing this point across for you.

  
  

• At 06 April '08 - 19:03 zazu wrote:

  worth reading!

  
  

• At 06 April '08 - 20:39 jarot wrote:

  

  saya hanya menyampaikan bahwa siapa saja yang memusuhi Islam, dan tidak suka terhadap Islam..belum tau Islam yang lebih dalam,,jikalau Anda-anda tau apa itu Islam, keindahan islam, kesejukan Islam ..niscaya air mata keindahan anda bila mendengar tentang Islam takan terbendung, Islam adalah agama yang lansgung diturunkan Allah..Tuhan Yang Menciptakan Alam Semesta dan Segala isinya..
  namun Islam tidak akan berdiam diri jika Agama Allah dihina, dan dilecehkan palagi anda telah melecehkan Nabi Muhamad SAW,,kekasih Allah…
  jika maksud anda Teroris adalah Islam??? anda salah besar!!!
  Teroris muncul dari Kristen,,yang ingin mengadu dombakan Islam..
  
  ketahuilah bahwa Islam sangat terhina dengan adanya film FITNA. dan anda tidak tahu,,bahwa Allah akan bersama Islam hingga Hari Kiamat..
  
  apa hukuman bagi orang kafir?kristen? NERAKA / HELL
  
  Geert Wilders, anda seorang manusia busuk!! Islam akan mengutuk anda.. walau di duni kalah tapi lihatlah nanti di Akherat…anda akan terpanggang oleh panasnya api neraka…dimanakah letak orang kafir disimpan??? di dalam Neraka Jahanam…sebagai keraknya Neraka…kayu bakarnya neraka…yang menyala amat . GOTO HELL KRISTEN..PLACE IN HELL KRISTEN IS DOG!!! YESUS = SICK MAN!!! YESUS = TERORIS YESUS = PIG IN THE WORLD, YESUS = HELL MAN, YESUS = NOT REAL, YESUS = JIN, YESUS = BICTH!!!!!! GO TO HELL KRISTEN!!!!!!!!!!!! FUCK

  
  

• At 07 April '08 - 01:53 Marco wrote:

  

  @jarot I have no idea what your blabbering is about but:
  
  Did you actually READ this post or did you just decide to go postal after reading the word ‘Fitna’ ? First of all I’m not a ‘Kristen’ (nor a Christian b.t.w. just incase). Secondly, I’m not a supporter of Fitna. In fact I think it’s a pathetic attempt to make Islam look bad.
  
  Finally, I DO hate religious zealots who spit out violent nonsense such as yourself. Grow up dude, we’re in the 21st century. This world deserves better.

  
  

• At 07 April '08 - 06:43 Marco wrote:

  

  @jarot I deleted your followup comment. Everyone is welcome to discuss my article but it will have to be in English and in a civil manner.
  
  Thanks!

  
  

• At 08 April '08 - 03:42 myself wrote:

  I’m strongly oppose ‘FITNA’. As long as we can see that this film humiliate Islam unreservedly. this film differentiate the words in Quran even we as Muslim never do so. It viewed us that Islam full with ferocity, but why don’t they viewed how Muslims at Palestine suffered by regime of jews for more than 10 years. Why don’t they view that US soldier kill man at Iraq and consider them as terrorist as they don’t. Why don’t they view how suffered kids at Afghanistan because of war. and so many why don’t that i want to show that Muslim suffered much all this time.

  
  

• At 08 April '08 - 03:50 Marco wrote:

  

  While I can understand your sentiments, I don’t think the ‘but they are doing it too!’-argument is very strong. In fact it’s the weakest argument of all. It’s what children in kindergarten do when they’re told they did something wrong. They don’t look into what they did but address other kids having done things wrong as well instead.
  
  This movie sucks, Islamic terrorism sucks, Palestinian oppression sucks and as far as I’m concerned the war in Iraq sucks as well. Does saying all this lead to anything constructive? Nope.
  
  It’s the true killer of any constructive dialogue if you ask me.

  
  

• At 09 April '08 - 23:02 HAMZAH wrote:

  

  I AM A MOSLEM
  
  ABOUT “FITNA”?????
  
  THAT IS THE BEST STUPIDITY I HAVE EVER SEEN
  
  LOT’S OF NON-MOSLEM SEARCHING FOR A REAL TRUTH IN THIS WORLD BY
  STUDYING EVERY SINGLE DETAIL OF HISTORY BECAME A MOSLEM
  
  WELL,,,
  
  I AM SURE
  
  I!!!!!!!!!!!
  
  AM!!!!!!!!!!!
  
  TRUE!!!!!!!!!!

  
  

• At 10 April '08 - 01:31 neagrigore wrote:

  

  Hello again. I want to point you a great documentary about the talibans, Talking to the Talibans. I think people should better watch reporters such as Christiane Amanpour with her’s God’s Warriors and Graeme Smith’s Talking with the Talibans, and ignore Gert.

  
  

• At 10 April '08 - 20:56 suharyanto wrote:

  

  brothers…please..read al Qur’an rationally and never tendentiuos…brothers whoever believe in God… share your love and kind to other humans without seeing their background, races, and cultures. although we are different we could love and understand each others, Specially to Wilder.. We wish understand fully about other religion. the Truth is not on only your mind but others have opinion too. please never the World worsened by your opinion

  
  

• At 14 April '08 - 08:47 BabyColor wrote:

  

  @jarot are u malaysian or Indonesian ?I am Indonesian so i am fully understand what u say, by the way, the way you say is not different from people the saw on the Fitna movie, if u shout out like that and disrespect other religion, then you are agree with Fitna Movie, agree that Islam like that!
  
  But personality i think Thats only the people, not the religion (Islam) who’s bad, the bad one are that people on the movie who strike terror, mock and disrespect other religion and use islam as their shield, i believe there’s no religion that bad that deserve hell, all religion are the way people to follow the road of God.
  
  I am a Hindu and i believe on God, i believe that God exist, and God only one, the great one only one, but people call him on many name, no matter if you call him God, Tuhan, Hyang Widhi, or Allah, he one you call are the same, he is the great one, the creator of al things, i believe on God, why ? i can’t see him, but i can feel him, just like you eat ice cream, you fell its cold, but can you see whats cold’s form
  (sorry for my bad english)
  
  Anyway, i live in Indonesian, a country that acknowledege 4 religion, Hindu, Budha, Islam, And Christian
  I Live in community where we respect each other, i befriend many friend that have different religion, and we respect each other
  
  So i think greet wilder is to harsh on this movie, he is wrong, the one who take the blame of all this not the religion, but those beast who use religion it self as shield, do you know Bomb on Bali some years ago ?
  The culpirt also one of them, one of beast who use Islam as shield, Beast who can laught even after he captured, his objective is to kill all the tourist that he think as animals cauze they drink alcohol, drunk, wear cloth that ekspose to much (sexy), but he din’t realize that he is the actual beast, he take inocent live, my friend in junior high school lost her father on incident, her father work as security on one of the location of the bomb, thats just make me more angry with them who so selfish, and then use religion to shield them self
  
  Well, if this religion conflict keep up, im sure this world will end in no time, the end of world is on human’s hand, if we continue like this then the end of time is near, but if we respect and love each otherf, then the world lifetime will longer
  
  So to anyone who read this, keep peace and respect each other
  
  anyway, i can translate what jarot say if u don’t understand
  
  —————————————————————————————————————————-
  iam only tell one thing, anywho who think islam as enemy, and hate islam… Din’t know islam so deep,,If u are know what is islam,the beauty of islam, the fresh of Islam ..then your tears when hear it will flow so much, Islam is religion that directly from God.. God who create all this spaces..
  But islam won’t stand still if Allah get disrespected, And mocked especially mock Nabi Muhhamad thats big mistake!!!
  Teroris came because Christian,,That want to blame Islam (i yhink, i cant translate it properly cuz lack of my english knowledge, gomenasai…)..
  
  Just know that Islam fell really disgrace with the movie of FITNA. dAnd u rae not know,,That Allah with Islam till the end of time..
  
  Whats the punishment for Kafir ?
  Christian?
  NERAKA / HELL
  
  Geert Wilders, you are a rooten human!! Islam will curse you.. Even lost in the world, but in the afterlife…You will rosted by the heat of flame of hell…Where is kafir people placed??? On Jerk’s hell…The crack of hell…the fire wood of hell…that burn so much . GOTO HELL KRISTEN..PLACE IN HELL KRISTEN IS DOG!!! YESUS = SICK MAN!!! YESUS = TERORIS YESUS = PIG IN THE WORLD, YESUS = HELL MAN, YESUS = NOT REAL, YESUS = JIN, YESUS = BICTH!!!!!! GO TO HELL KRISTEN!!!!!!!!!!!! FUCK
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  thats what jarot sayd and I REALLY DISAGREE WITH THAT!!!! DISRESPECT OTHER RELIGION LIKE WHAT YOU DID MAKE YOU NO DIFFIRENT WITH THOSE PEOPLE ON THE MOVIE
  just get back
  
  bertobatlah
  
  anyway i just wanna say, keep PEACE

  
  

• At 15 April '08 - 03:47 Marco wrote:

  

  @BabyColor
  
  thanks a lot for your translation and the rest of your post. I personally don’t believe in any kind of god-entity but just like you I am happy to respect people who do, as long as they don’t interfere with my life and / or the lives of others. No one has the right to impose their beliefs upon others. I won’t accept Wilders’ petty propaganda but I won’t accept @jarots zealotism either.
  
  Peace to you!

  
  

• At 26 April '08 - 07:31 john muuwil wrote:

  

  i am a christian and having seen christians being insulted by everyone not just from the muslims but the people that claim themselves as christians. Cross as our symbol of salvation being jeopordized as a symbol of pornographic, not by muslims but mostly by the americans. but we keep quiet, because we have our faith. no one and nobody can rock our faith because we are christians. to the muslims over there, the christians are not your enemy but could your very self.

  
  

• At 02 May '08 - 09:05 rian wrote:

  

  @jarot
  anda mengatakan bahwa islam adalah agama yg baik?
  berarti anda orang islam.
  mengapa anda langsung menuduh orang kristen?
  mengapa anda mengatakan yesus=sick man?
  dari situ kan dapat dilihat kalo ISLAM agama yg baik bukankah anda sebagai umatnya seharusnya memiliki sopan santun yang lebih baik??
  saya sebagai umat beragama yg lain,saya tidak melihat adanya sebuah
  
  perilaku dari umat beragama islam yg baik di indonesia??
  lalu mana sisi baiknya??
  
  coba anda lihat berbagai macam kerusuhan di indonesia,pelakunya hanya orang islam
  
  for all
  sorry i can speak english well..
  
  i have some opinion:
  
  MAYBE MUSLEM IS GOOD RELIGION BUT PEOPLE IS MUSLEM IS BAD
  
  NOT MUSLEM IS BAD but “PEOPLE OF MUSLEM IS BAD!!”

  
  

• At 03 May '08 - 04:36 HAMZAH wrote:

  

  ALL OF US ARE STILL LACK OF KNOWLEDGE. WE HAVE TO KEEP LEARNING. ESPESCIALLY ABOUT GOD ENTITY, MARCO, – - THERE IS A GOD, MARCO, BELIEVE ME. – OUR BRAIN CAN NOT REACH THIS UNBELIEVEBLE TRUTH; BUT!!!!
  OUR LOVELY HEART CAN!.
  THIS WILL BE A NEVER ENDING DEBATE (ABOUT RELIGION DIFFERENCE I MEAN). ESPESCIALLY FOR A KIND OF PERSON LIKE YOU, MARCO, YOU DO NOT EVEN CARE ABOUT GOD ENTITY.
  FOLLOW YOUR HEART, NOT YOUR BRAIN. GO OUT THERE AND LOOK AT THE GREAT SKY, ... THERE IS A GOD MAKING ALL OF THIS FOR US, OUR BODY ARE ONE OF GOD’S CREATES TOO (INCLUDING OUR STUPID/SMART BRAIN).
  BLESS FOR ALL OF US…,

  
  

• At 03 May '08 - 18:21 BabyColor wrote:

  

  Well Rian, i think u are Indonesian just like me, hehe, in case everyone can’t understand what he say
  
  Here it is
  
  @Jarot
  You say Islam is good relgion?
  Then you are an islamic.
  Why you just badmouthing abaout christian?
  Why you say yesus=sick man?
  From that we can see if Islam are good religion then musn’t you as their follower have more good manner ?
  I as other religion, im not seeing any different
  
  A good thing from Islam in Indonesia?
  Then where is the good side ??
  
  Just look how many riot in Indonesia, the culpirt just Islamic
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  Well, maybe not all muslim people are bad One of My classmate are Muslim but he never do bad thing like mock other religion, he never insult other religion or do something like on the movie (fitna), he even often save my life from those painfull test at school, i don’t thinks all of them bad, maybe just few of them who bad (or good) well, anyway the bad guys here are people like in the movie or person like jarot (sory) that so fanatic and look at the terrorist who attacked Bali with damn stupid bomb, when they cpatured, they say if they just do what theyr religion ordered, like in the movie, make Theyr religion look bad, the trutg is they use theyr religion as shield
  
  @Hamzah
  Yeah, u rit, just like ice cream, you can fell it cold but can’t see whats cold’s form, just like God, we can’t see but we can feel its great power (Well something like Big Bang can’t exist if God not do the big bang, who do you thing the one that create World from big bang ? Sephirot? no its the God) well, sorry if my word make unpleasant to anyone who read it, im sorry

  
  

• At 13 May '08 - 19:19 HAMZAH wrote:

  

  WELL,
  
  WHAT DO YOU THINKKKKKKKKKKKKK
  
  MARCO????????????????????????

  
  

• At 13 May '08 - 21:09 Marco wrote:

  

  @HAMZAH I don’t believe in any kind of God. It just doesn’t make any sense to me. I feel any religion is a figment of human imagination rooted in some sort of fear of being ‘alone’. I do believe in humanism and in trying to be a good person.
  
  I do however respect the fact that other people have a different view on this, as long as they don’t hurt any other person in their search for truth, like many religious people, organisations and countries unfortunately do.
  
  I sure hope this doesn’t make me a bad person ?

  
  

• At 15 May '08 - 08:07 BabyColor wrote:

  

  Well….
  If thats what you believe, no one have right right yo force you to believe or force you to have religion, you have right to decide what you believe, at least that what i think, sience i am just an ordinary high school boy, my knowledge about world still small
  
  I just wondering the reason you didn’t believe on God at the first place (Err, i don’t want to force you to believe, i just asking, well, if you don’t mind answering, if not its fine)

  
  

• At 21 May '08 - 02:03 HAMZAH wrote:

  

  OWW, MARRCOOO.....
  
  WHERE IS MY “SPEAK UPS”................????

  
  

• At 25 May '08 - 15:25 Marco wrote:

  

  @HAMZAH what do you mean now? I think I answered your question?

  
  

• At 25 May '08 - 18:48 HAMZAH wrote:

  

  HOW ABOUT SPIRIT, DO YA BELIEFE SPIRIT’S EXISTENCE?
  WHEN WE DIED OUR BODY IS IN A GOOD ONE PERFECT SHAPE..
  BUT!!!!
  THEY’RE GONNA BEING DESTROYED, BACK INTO DUST.
  WHERE IS THE “ENERGY OF LIFE” / SPIRIT GO?
  IF YOU TRY TO SEE HOW SPIRIT LOOKS LIKE, YOU WON’T STAND A CHANCE...
  EXCEPT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  YOU ARE A PSYCHOLOGIST.
  (PSYCHS CAN DO SUCH A THING)
  AGAIN..
  WHERE IS THE “ENERGY OF LIFE” / SPIRIT GO?
  THEY ARE GO BACK, OUR SPIRIT SHALL GO BACK...
  TO OUR GOD, OUR LOVELY, ONLY ONE GOD, THE MIGHTY-CREATOR.

  
  

• At 02 June '08 - 01:17 HAMZAH wrote:

  

  DO YA THINK EARTH’S 3rd POSITION FROM SUN, ATMOSPHERE, WATER, GRAVITATION, MIND, FOOD, SKY, STARS

  
  

• At 02 June '08 - 21:53 HAMZAH wrote:

  

  DO YA THINK EARTH’S 3rd POSITION FROM SUN, ATMOSPHERE, WATER, GRAVITATION, MIND, FOOD, SKY, STARS, I MEAN AAAALLLLL THINGS THAT EXIST IN PERFECT CONDITION AND INGREDIENT FOR HUMAN LIFE JUST HAPPEN BECAUSE OF ACCIDENT?????????

  
  

• At 03 June '08 - 00:46 Marco wrote:

  

  HAMZAH I think the earth isn’t nearly as special as religion wants us to believe. In fact it’s highly probably that there’s plenty of planets like earth scattered all over the universe.
  
  We’re not special my friend, we’re just intelligent lifeforms overpopulating (and destroying) a little rock in the vastness of the cosmos. And also, I don’t think human life is any more special than any other life. We just tell ourselves that we are, which probably adds to the way we are destroying this place.

  
  

• At 04 June '08 - 04:31 BabyColor wrote:

  

  Ok, so, anyway, its like our talk seem out of topic recently, we were talking about fitna on the first place isn’t we
  
  well, do God really exist or not, we’ll know when we die

  
  

• At 04 June '08 - 17:11 HAMZAH wrote:

  

  OK, MARCO.
  
  THAT’S IT.
  
  THANK’S 4 YOUR ANSWERS.
  
  I’M SO DEEP SORRY 4 OUR (MOSLEMS) UNCIVILIAN WORDS.
  
  SEE U.
  
  (U BETTER TRY TO READ “PROVE OF GOD EXISTENCE” IN WEBS)

  
  

• At 05 June '08 - 23:32 HAMZAH wrote:

  

  BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA …
  
  YEAH, I’M SORRY, I STARTED IT.
  
  

  
  

• At 09 June '08 - 05:34 zafar wrote:

  

  Talibans are also part of US… as u can see destroying Russia US create Taliban how can be they Muslim? i disagree with those who say that Taliban are muslim because islam never says that go and have a suicide bomb all over you and destroy people. its a sin killing people in Islam, i am a Muslim, i totally disagree with this film made by Dutch, Islam means peace.. and what u wana show to the world by makin such a sick movie? you people don’t know a single abc of Islam and you people are talking about Al’Quran, you people should get a life, let me tell you one thing, for those who are in support of such movie, this guy who make such movie is involved with US and they are trying to have killings all over the world, you cant even imagine how much money will he get from US by making such move? Can u do it? Its really impossible to take such a huge action, one can take such action when he/she got a great back up and support.
  Tell me one thing why you think of doing wrong thing and then suddenly there is a voice came in your hart don’t do it its not good, that’s Allah. Why so much suicide ratio is much in Europe? Just because they are fed up of their life?
  Let me tell you one thing When you know about real Islam believe me you will feel so much relaxed and your life will fill with joy, and you will free from Satan and sin, people will love you for your good deeds.
  My friend don’t blame Islam for all this it’s a request I am a Muslim and it really feels pain, May Allah show you the right path.

  
  

• At 13 June '08 - 10:08 Al-Qamariyah wrote:

  This is indeed a neutral comment based on the facts, it appears you are an atheist——— then again I have no right to comment about what you believe, but indeed you are much better than some of Christians who is trying their best to annoy us here in the internet. Congratulations, good job,
  
  Wassalamu’alaika.

  
  

• At 14 June '08 - 11:22 zafar wrote:

  

  I believe in Almighty Allah and my Rasool (P.B.O.H), if they are talking about facts and figure about Islam I can prove it to you by those facts and figure, it was mention 1000s of years back in Al’Quran that the world is round and its in oval shape.. but you people refuse it that its flat, it was mention 1000s year back don’t eat pork, because it eats shit, recent research it is proved most of the disease in US and Europe are due to eating Pork, it was mention 1000s years back in Al’Quran that cut the animal from the neck such that its blood get out of its body before baking and eating it, but in US and Europe they were killed by shocked or Shot, in recent research it has been prove that it is good for health that the Animal should be cut down from the neck so its blood get out from its veins and body.
  I will request all the non Muslims please don’t abuse Islam because you people are not aware of the judgment day.
  Go to a Muslim scholar if you are facing difficulties if you have question in your mind about Islam, but please don’t abuse Islam and Muslims like that.
  Thank you, for your patients of listening my words.

  
  

• At 15 June '08 - 09:05 BabyColor wrote:

  

  Well, yeah, right, i agree, that movie just to much, well i think not all of them are as bad as shown on the movie, they might be the poison on the sweet milk (i mean the people on the movie who use religion as shield)
  well, at least that what i think, even in my Country there was a group like in the movie who bring terror and use Islam as Shield and attacking people on public, and there are many people who angry at them and most of them are the other Islam, so, maybe thats the same like the people in the movie, am i right ?

  
  

• At 15 January '09 - 14:46 Fouda wrote:

  

  Hey man,
  Lots of my friends are atheists (mostly on forums) and sometimes their input on religion or ‘display’ of religion to be precise is very intriguing.
  
  Your post is great, and i enjoyed reading it
  (FYI: Fitna is arabic for; a dangerous rumor/lie that makes people fight over it. ex: when there was clashes between muslims and christians in egypt, that’s called a religious ‘fitna’)
  I can’t add anything on what you said, regarding my opinion on fitna…you described my feelings and thoughts nicely; a 4 year old’s attempt to show someone as the big bad wolf (“Look, look what he said. Better be careful or he’ll getcha !)
  
  Regarding your religious beliefs (or lack of); it’s your choice man. I agree, some of those who speak in the “name of islam” are absolutely scandalous and are more interested of proving themselves right. I, personally, stopped listening to those who preach about it and went straight to the source…i have to say i was surprised and relieved when i realized that only 10% of what these bearded bozos say are related to Islam. (but that’s for another time)
  Personally, i found that Islam is really great, that’s me anyway.
  
  What’s funny however is that the quotes from the Quran in the movie are WAAAAAAAAAAAY out of context; most ‘suras’ talk about battles and the times where islam was emerging and strongly opposed and Allah’s advice to Muhammed (PBOH) to fight those who oppose him…using it now makes absolutely no sense :S. As if they expect, at times of clans, swords and conflict, that he would sue them for assault

  
  

• At 20 February '09 - 04:19 Charles wrote:

  

  I didn’t read through your entire post, because your nihilistic beginning was enough to make me tune out. I suppose you feel the cultural aspects that Islam inforces are humanitarian in nature. You seem a little dim witted since you fail to notice the violent implications being as a self proclaimed atheist would cause under Islamic Rule. But it’s okay you sound like another pissant Liberal ready to take it up the ass to whomever will give it to you. Please do me a favor and suicide bomb yourself out of existence.

  
  

• At 20 February '09 - 08:22 Marco wrote:

  

  @Charles if you haven’t read the entire post you’re in no position to comment on it. You ‘suppose’ things, like a true uneducated right wing pig who rather bases his opinion on fear mongering bullshit from people like Geert Wilders than diving into the subject matter and form an educated opinion. Please do me a favor and get the fuck off my site and crawl back to the hole you came from.

  
  

• At 20 February '09 - 08:38 Zee wrote:

  

  @marco
  “Movies like this are only intended to stir hatred and to divide people. I’m sorry if I failed in bringing this point across for you.
  
  Sorry your sensibilities can’t handle hatred but some things are well worth loathing and there are people that ought to be divided and ostracized from civilized society. Islamists fall into that category and to not loathe that totalitarian entity is to submit to it.
  
  It will be laughable watching folks who parse reality as you do, as if your supposed intellect will suffice for the wisdom you so obviously lack. The moment that reality bites you in the ass, aside from being rather bloody, is an amusement almost worth the price of admission.

  
  

• At 20 February '09 - 08:52 Fouda wrote:

  

  @Charles:
  Marco handled you pretty well there but i got the itch so i’m gonna scratch it
  Cracks Neck
  He couldn’t have described you any better than “Right wing pig who bases his opinion on fear-mongering bullshit”
  I would gladly suicide-bomb myself out of existence if there’s a slightest chance that i would take the likes of you with me but since i’m entertained by ignorance, you’re more useful as a dancing monkey than a fried right wing.
  Atheists are not considered as enemies to muslims or islam in general; it is when they directly attack islam that it becomes a whole other story. It was due to my discussions with atheists that intrigued me to research and dig deeper in islam and i only have them to thank for that
  
  What else can i say ?
  Your post is simply saying “You’re different, you’re not what the guy on the TV says, the guy on the TV says you’re bad. Get away from me”
  Not discussing anything, not addressing anything…not even saying anything !
  It is only the weak who choose to shield themselves in their beliefs rather than use them to benefit and face the world. I’m a muslim yet i openly discuss it with those of opposing, yet constructive, opinions. i know more about them, about my religion and they know more about me as a result
  
  But, it is only through posts and rants like this that you get to prove to yourself and get hard at the fact that you’re a thumbs up, good and safe and away from all those different people…good for you. Now grab a beer and keep watching the guy on TV

  
  

• At 20 February '09 - 09:16 Pam wrote:

  

  @Charles since you want to point out that Marco sounds leftist, I thought I might mention you sound like every other right wing dumbass. (Translation of Charles post to follow)
  “I didn’t read this, nor can I form an opinion on my own, what I will do here is make some rude comments about something I have no idea what I am talking about because I didn’t read it and make an ass of myself on someone’s blog”
  
  :D

  
  

• At 20 February '09 - 09:16 Marco wrote:

  

  @Zee how many of those ‘Islamists’ with dangerous ideas do you really know? Do you even actually KNOW any muslims (extremist or moderate) ?
  
  I bet you don’t. I bet all your ‘reference material’ is bullshit from movies like Fitna.
  
  There’s not gonna be any ‘Islamic rule’ nor any bloody scenes leading up to it. Get real man, seriously…

  
  

• At 20 February '09 - 10:21 Zee wrote:

  

  Like I said Marco, my amusement, bloody though it will be, will come when the clueless arrogant such as you, and the pompous twits who hold up your dick for you on this blog, truly are embraced by islam – and may it grind your bones to pulp.
  
  And sweetie, I reference reality for my research, such as daily headlines factually reporting islamic atrocities , as neatly compiled on this site-
  http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
  or this one-
  http://www.memri.org/
  So why don’t you grow a pair, suck it up, and try a dose of reality sometime.
  But hey, if personal anecdotes and your “nice” mooselim acquaintances are sufficient for you to define Islam, go for it asswipe. Perhaps the slaughter of all western appeasers is what is needed to clean out the gene pool that produces the spineless mutants you so ably represent. If the muzzies achieve that before we put them in a sea of glass, they’ll have served a purpose.

  
  

• At 20 February '09 - 10:33 Marco wrote:

  

  @Zee You do know that the more profanity you use in your reply, the less intelligent you come across, right?
  
  But go ahead man, spend your life being scared. Be very scared. You sound like an angry, scared little man, poisoned by right wing promotional material. Now if you want to have a discussion I’m all for it but as long as your replies are seasoned with profanity I’m not going to respond to it anymore.
  
  Note that I’m not ‘embraced’ by any religion. I think religion is fairytale nonsense. I’m happy to discuss this with anyone as well, in a civil matter that is.

  
  

• At 20 February '09 - 10:44 Zee wrote:

  

  Sweetheart, I used the word asswipe, because it does such a marvelous job of summing up your usefulness, and i used the word dick to describe that tiny little member you daily handle in excreting toxins from your body. A shame it doesn’t drain your brain of all the useless straw men you fling up (profanity! get over yourself) instead of commenting on the daily evidence, as noted in those links, of the true nature of the islam you are so intent on defending.
  As far as my delivery, hey honey, my responses are calibrated to the level of intelligence demonstrated in your post. Why talk above your level of comprehension.

  
  

• At 20 February '09 - 11:07 Marco wrote:

  

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

  
  

• At 20 February '09 - 11:16 Zee wrote:

  

  Sweetie, quit hiding. Who cares what type of argumentation is used.Who cares if I cast aspersions on your manhood (something you are likely used to). Either comment on the wealth of evidence those two links provide, evidence that makes your defense of islam as pitiful as your responses, or simply STFU.

  
  

• At 20 February '09 - 11:28 Marco wrote:

  

  @Zee, I do. Did you miss the guideline that said: ‘use common decency’ above the comment form?
  
  Are these two links really all you have to add to the discussion? I’m well aware of the existence of islamic fanatical idiots. I’m well aware of the existence of countries in which atrocities are being committed in the name of Islam. Did you see me deny any of this? Did you READ the article before you started preaching your right wing views?
  
  Now back to the original point: How the hell do those two links prove that radical Islamists are about to take over the Western world? Give me a a break man… seriously…
  
  Finally, please excuse me for not addressing your continuing personal attacks that have absolutely nothing to do with the topic of this post. You don’t know me. I don’t know you either so I’ll stick to the actual subject instead writing down assumptions in return about your manhood.

  
  

• At 20 February '09 - 12:39 Zee wrote:

  

  Sweetie, If you were concerned about decency, you’d delete your blog. I used you as a spittoon to expel some accumulated revulsion I have for your ilk. You serve nicely as a recipient of my spit. I could care less what you believe and I have no interest in changing what “mind” you might have. I simply chose you as today’s spittoon. God job little lackey. Now go wipe it off your face.
  Buh-bye biatch

  
  

• At 20 February '09 - 13:09 Marco wrote:

  

  
  
  Congratulations! I’m glad it made you feel better!

  
  

• At 23 February '09 - 00:21 HAMZAH wrote:

  

  ‘WAZZUP, MARCOOO ..???
  
  HOWR’E U DOIN’??
  
  IT’S A BIT HOT IN HERE ..
  
  

  
  

• At 07 December '09 - 20:19 Newton wrote:

  

  Marco, You are correct. Nothing in ‘Fitna’ the movie is inaccurate. Everything but the last minute is from purely Islamic sources. There are candid moments when mullahs do not know they are being filmed and they speak freely about killing infidels and Jews.
  However, most people don’t have a clue what fitna is.
  I recommend the following link where a complete discussion of this horrible teaching was recently published:
  http://www.politicalislam.com/blog/fitna..

  
  

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